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Three Seaters


Tony Cotton takes a break from racing cars and looks at that rare animal the three seater car

I'm always intrigued by solutions in search of a problem. The iPad is one – until it came along who needed an oversize iphone without a keyboard....or a phone? 70 million people, apparently. The pre-peeled fruit that M&S sold for a while for those who really were either too busy or too stupid to peel an orange. Half bottles of wine. Though that one may be my own problem. Or Cheryl Cole. I never worked out what she was for. Another ongoing solution to a problem I've rarely had is how do you seat 3 people in a car? To me the obvious answer is just leave a seat unoccupied in your Golf, but this hasn't been good enough for some of the most ingenious motoring brains of the last half century or so, and the results have varied from the breathtakingly impressive to the downright quirky.

 

 

 

Starting in the early 1950's, the Jowett Jupiter was a horizontally opposed four cylinder powered open tourer/sports car made in Bradford. It was an attractive little car with engineering novelty, designed in part by AutoUnion engineer Eberan Von Eberhorst. That had the obvious answer for 3 people in a 2-seater, a bench seat. The equally obvious disadvantage was that there wasn't much side support in cornering, but maybe that was okay at the time.


An equally early candidate was the Series One Land Rover. Not a car, I hear you say, but as I've seen pictures of one racing in a car race at Silverstone in the 50's, I stay my ground. That had the simplest solution you can imagine – stick 3 seat cushions side by side, so a variant on the bench seat but separate cushions and a saving on seat foam. The prototype, built in 1947, was unique among Land Rovers in having a centre- mounted steering wheel. The attraction was that it needed no left-and right-hand drive variants, but it proved a bit too radical and a conventional layout was adopted.

Staying with 3 side-by-side seating, the 1973 Matra Simca Bagheera and the later less pretty Talbot Matra Murena introduced 3 bucket seats in a row. The driver's moved, the passengers' didn't and whilst the picture with a model makes it look a big car, I suspect she's one of these car-specialist models who is perfectly in proportion and about 4foot 9inches tall. My guess is that whilst the Bagheera was lovely to look at and was a wide car for the time (1735mm compared with the competing MGB at 1524mm, but 1740mm for my Mk4 Golf) it didn't have enough space to be truly comfortable either for 2 passengers or one travelling in the narrow seats. In the time since the Murena ceased production, cars have got safer, needing thicker, stronger doors and, to be blunt, the average set of hips has got wider, so we've probably seen the last of 3-in-a-row.

Incidentally, 3 Bagheeras were built with U8 (not V8) engines.

 

However, that centre steering wheel in the Land Rover reappears a bit later. No, not the McLaren yet, but the Kieft Bristol. Cyril Kieft's racing cars were produced in my home town of Wolverhampton, and I knew Cyril towards the end of his life. His designer Gordon Bedson penned a Bristol powered formula 2 car, like the contemporary Cooper, but it wasn't made. The designs were converted into a 3 seat sports racer by hanging outriggers on either side with two small seats. Whilst balance was then ideal, the driver had a prop shaft running through his legs and the pedals also had to circumvent the prop shaft. Whether any passengers were carried is anybody's guess, but it satisfied the rules and is another variation.

The same 3 seater concept to circumvent the rules works much better with a rear engine as there's nothing to get in the driver's way, and this was a layout adopted by Gian Paulo Dallara for the 1000cc powered sports racing car bearing his name, which ran with considerable success in the early 1970's. There was probably room for Action Man in the left seat and Barbie in the right, or maybe Felipe Massa.

Staying with cars designed for the track, the 3-seater appeared a few times in the 1990's and early 2000's when there was a fad for “F1 experience” cars. The trouble was that McLaren did it properly with a close coupled two seater driven by Brundle, probably the most intelligent F1 driver who could thrill in safety. Few drivers could do that, the cars weren't as inherently safe as the McLaren and they died out. Arrows tried it with lesser drivers than Brundle and I suspect their insurers told them to stop. After all, passengers paying several thousand pounds can probably afford good lawyers, and probably don't appreciate being the deformable structure. For what it's worth, pictures of a Ferrari F1 3-seater appeared on the internet. Whether it was genuine, I leave to your judgement.

 

 

However, no matter how genuine or not the F1 3-seater is, by jumping back to the 1960's we can see that an arrow-3 format was adopted by Ferrari for the rather gorgeous 365P Guida Centrale. Based on some of the parts of the 365P2 sports racer, just two were built for Gianni Agnelli (the FIAT boss) and Luigi Chinetti, the original North American Ferrari agent. The car had a V12 4.4 litre engine and the styling was like a scaled up but flattened Dino, albeit about 4 years earlier. The clever part was that the designer realised that hips and shoulders are the wide parts of the body, so if you stagger the seats a bit the legs can tuck in alongside the body of the driver. The result was a luxurious but manageable nearly side by side 3 seater. The downside was that it was a little wide, and Mrs Chinetti supposedly didn't fancy it because of that. It was, in fact, 1890mm wide compared with 1920mm for the 360 of 1999-2005, and more prosaically, 1886mm for the current Mondeo, but as I've said before, times change. Mind you, although I find the 365P rather lovely who can blame Mrs C if she preferred the 275GTB4 NART Spyder her husband commissioned around the same time.

 

Sports car, V12, arrow 3 seater, 30 years on. Yes, it's time for the ultimate 3 seater, the McLaren F1. It was supposed to be so strong as to not need a cage, but actually it did flex without one. It was incredibly efficient packaging, only 1820mm wide, designed without compromise by Gordon Murray and beautifully clothed by Peter Stevens, who also worked for MG Rover, TWR, Lotus and some other companies who haven't gone bust. Probably one of the only cars to which “fantastic” can be accurately applied, and not a line wrong in it. For me it joins the original Mini and the Land Rover in an all time top ten of great cars.

Gordon Murray obviously likes the arrow 3 format because that has been applied in his composite and tube chassis'd, 3 cylinder powered, much discussed and hyped “revolutionary” T25 town car, of which not much has been heard recently. Even its mum wouldn't like its looks, but it's supposed to be superbly engineered and, thanks to the seating, surprisingly roomy. I hope I'm wrong but my guess is it will be a very expensive car for what it is, and that it will be sold on “total life costs”. I wish it well, and it's a 3 seater, so is GM the only designer to have done 2 wholly different 3 seaters?

Similarly expensive is the £20+k Mia electric. The Mia is neat and practical, but costing the same as a diesel Audi? Perhaps not.

 

 

So having reached a zenith with the McLaren F1 and, despite cost reservations, the clever T25 and Mia, we now have a different configuration, the 2 plus 1. I have 4 candidates, the first two of which are cars with many merits. The others aren't. The Daimler Conquest Roadster Mark II drophead coupé had a sideways-facing single rear seat. I find it impossible to see the car without thinking of floral print dresses and scarves, awfully nice young ladies, tweed clad gentlemen and grooms. It just screams upper middle class 1950's. The sideways seat is a great idea, and I think it was copied in a much later high performance car, but I can't remember what it was. The legroom is the full width of the car, but whilst it's ideal for sleeping in or a couple of miles down to the pub, I'm not sure I would fancy a long journey watching the world pass sideways; it could induce a bit of motion sickness.

Also a child of its time, the Hyundai HCDII show car was a pretty 3 seater with a semi-sideways seat that I can't quite fathom. However, it's probably cleverly thought out. Remember that at this time - 1993 - Hyundai weren't the company that scares European mid-range car builders, and outsells Renault in the UK by a factor of nearly 2. They were a Korean butt of jokes. Maybe this would have stopped that.

And to finish on the nadir. It's as hard to choose between these two as worst 3 seater as it is easy to choose the McLaren as the best.

Panther Westwinds were renowned for their pretty pastiche sports cars. J72 mimicked the Jaguar SS, Lima was somewhat in the style of a Morgan. Their Canadian importer asked for something special for his wife so they built a one off. A special bodied open car, based on an XJ6/12. What could possibly go wrong? Imagine the lady's birthday. He: “Come and see what I have for you, my dear”. She: “WHAT THE **** IS THAT?????!!!!!”. At great cost, the underpinnings of a sleek saloon had been transformed into the Panther Lazer, an oversized cheese shaped monstrosity with a comedy rear wing. “Wacky races” was mentioned by some. Even the point of this entry, the rear seat, was stupid as it was perched on the transmission tunnel and the passenger's legs poked between the front seats somewhat less practically than Gordon's creations. It went back to Byfleet where it languished for a year or two before being sold to the 14 year old Crown Prince of Iran. Suddenly, the Iranian revolution looks a lot more justified.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
I'm not sure whether the last entry is really a piece of post modern irony, or even performance art. It's a product of the Geely company of China, the people who bought Volvo from Ford. Called the Excellence, it's basically a productionised version of the Powell Motors Homer from the Simpsons. Rolls Royce got upset that the grille ripped them off, though even Geely weren't able to imitate the “presence”, to use the polite word, of the real Phantom and from some angles it's almost ok. Instead of a 6.8 litre penguin roaster of an engine as found in the Royce it has a 3 litre V6, which on a good day might pull the skin off your custard. But the sheer awfulness is in the back, separated by a glass partition from the front, where there is a single seat - a throne – surrounded by what a Chinese company or B&Q might think was luxury. I've never considered a car before with more doors than seats. Truly, this is the car of choice for the oppressive megalomaniac dictator on a tight budget, as £30k or so was quoted as the price.  
     
 

 

Tony Cotton

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